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David C
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« on: November 20, 2008, 03:54:21 AM »

...with the news of todays stalemate? They need to die out, the union has had to much of a strangle on this company and it's failure to adapt properly is what killed it

Yes in the 90's America demanded the BIG SUV and Truck but last time I checked it was almost 2009

They failed miserably and shouldn't use tax payers money to bail them out whether it's a loan or not because who's to say the loan would EVER be paid back

It's sad and I usually have always bought American (own 2 Chrysler products now) but this is the way business goes and such is life

Sorry Michigan looks like it's time to go back to school and learn a trade instead of suckin it up on your cushy union over paid factory job

What about when the Anointed one takes office and we have an almost full Dem Congress will it get passed then?
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JUST ME
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2008, 04:12:12 AM »

Hush.  My hubby works for GM.  Honestly, the auto industry employs MILLIONS.  Just let them die out? Are you serious?

And Bush is behind a GM rescue plan as well by the way.  Not meaning that says a lot to me but it might speak to you.
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George A
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2008, 05:23:12 AM »

hell no ! it is a bail out of the unions not the auto industry.time to join the real world......
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ROX D
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2008, 05:54:12 AM »

I don't think right now we should. I also don't blame the Union members. I think the blame, not that it will help, but it should go to the CEO's and the extremely high prices of vehicles.
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2008, 06:38:20 AM »

I don't think there should've been bailouts for anyone.  And to the woman that said her husband works for the auto industry.  Well I guess he'll just find something else.  The automotive industry is one of the few companies that will actually buy you out.
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jasont451
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2008, 08:05:19 AM »

Let them fail
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Myra F
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2008, 08:12:08 AM »

Do you really want to have all those Americans out of work? Do you know how much they support what's left of this failing economy?
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2008, 09:05:21 AM »

Yes, the should get the 25 b LOAN they are asking for if for no other reason than the cost to local, state, and federal governments could reach $156.4 billion over three years in lost taxes, and unemployment and health care assistance if they don't get it.

The unions are not the cause of the current problem. The credit crisis is wounding the U.S. auto industry in many different ways. Car makers can’t get loans to restructure and to produce new advanced technology vehicles. Suppliers and dealers can’t get loans for routine business, and customers can’t get loans for new cars. Car sales have dipped in the last month to the lowest in 25 years due to lack of loan money. The workers could work for $2.00 an hour and that isn't going to help free up the loan money due to the Wall Street crisis.

UAW contracts have reduced the pay rates so that new hire-ins are only getting $15 an hour and starting in January the union will take over the health care expenses, saving GM 9 billion an year. Unions have already been working with the company to reduce expenses and save the company.

As for your comment: "Sorry Michigan looks like it's time to go back to school and learn a trade instead of suckin it up on your cushy union over paid factory job." Many/most jobs in auto factories are now very high tech and require skills you can't learn without specialized schooling and training---that's why the call them SKILLED TRADES. You act like working in a factory is something anyone can learn in 10 minutes which isn't true of most jobs there.

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Its not going to work
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2008, 09:12:15 AM »

 I agree, No more...
 Some people have no thoughts beyond their noses.
 If they sink the ship with us in it....there is going to be some furious Americans and they that may not be a good thing.
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Witchy
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2008, 09:54:11 AM »

No.  It's about time that politicians listen to what the American people want.  No more bail outs.

Since the Democrats are the ones who want this bail out, when they take office, I'm sure they'll do whatever they want and we'll pay for it.

Still, I firmly believe that it's not the role of the federal government to force citizens to invest in any private business through taxation.
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spike missing debra m
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2008, 10:23:14 AM »

throwing good money after bad in a recession is a guaranteed method of creating a depression-the auto industry is NOT in trouble-just the 'big three' with their pathetic business practices, crappy products, and caving in to the UAW...i find it noteworthy that the unions are not offering any concessions to their bloated contracts in the spirit of trying to help these companies survive; why should they be rewarded with MY money? if these companies were worth saving and a good investment, their shares wouldn't be considered 'junk' by investors

bottom line, these companies have only themselves to blame for their failures-they have had decades to learn from the competition, and they haven't learned a thing-let their competition take them over, make cars the right way, and rescue them...or pave them under
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