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Obama's slum lord
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« on: November 16, 2008, 11:23:26 PM »

...TVs, Ships, Planes, etc? welcome to global competition....you get a bigger rice ball if you work harder...I am for the UAW!
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Sour Taco
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2008, 12:54:35 AM »

Maybe it's time to understand why other countries are building better cars?  =  workers feeling that they belong to the companies!!!  instead of secretly giving the CEOs the middle fingers

Punishing good workers for being 1 second late, but CEOs go golfing during work
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Dino
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 04:23:21 AM »

save the unions!!!!
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 09:23:26 AM »

As a UAW worker. I can assure you if we fail then you most defiantly fail.

* We do make a decent wage. Under $30 an hour NOT the $45, $50, or even the $70 an hour as some assume. Skilled Trades (electricians, pipe fitters, millwrights, etc...) make between $30 up to under $40 an hour.

* We do have decent benefits although we have lost some of them due to trying to help the company survive

* WE spend our wages at local business and others when we are out of town

* Near my plant we have several business that are supported by us spending money at their establishments (fueling our cars, lunch, dinner, etc...)

* If the plants close then we, the UAW workers are put on unemployment that will go for atleast a year for lower seniority workers, but there are many like myself that have quite a few years in that will be on it longer.

* Our unemployment would pay more than going to work somewhere else. Remember we have families and bills just like you. We require enough to take care of our finances just like you.

* Those of us that have a college education, thanks to our UAW's tuition assistance programs which are gone as of this last contract, will have to struggle to compete with the younger college graduates.

*New American auto makers won't open in this country, they will go over seas for cheap labor, because the non union people here would not be happy with the wage they will want to pay plus little to no benefits. Families can't survive on that. Espcially if you have children that need braces, glasses, etc....

* Now because all of us UAW workers are laid off, we won't be spending money like we use to. This is going to become a problem for business that we once frequented. Imagine how much money will be taken out of the economy. Oh and don't forget we are TAXPAYERS just like you. I would be willing to be I pay alot more taxes than most of you that come to this forum do.

* This will eventually hit other businesses HARD. This will have an impact on anyone of you that works. Sales are down so they have to let some people go, since that factory down the road closed the mom and pop gas station can't survive because their main income is gone.

To many of you are looking at the small picture and what will happen next week. You have to look at the big picture. If the auto companies go bankrupt it will affect your job eventually, most definatly. Count on it

Others are so concerned with what we make. Most of you have probably never seen the inside of an auto factory (in person, not on television) You have no clue as to proceedures or how things are done.

So with that said I hope that if the auto industry does go bankrupt that you will have you and your family prepared for the horrific times ahead. Good luck and GOD bless.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2008, 04:05:18 PM »

Nope. Better to nationalize this vital industry.
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2008, 05:38:15 PM »

I don't know about you, but I would rather Americans own America, not because of any sort of xenophobia, but out of the fact that most people have allegiance primarily to their homeland.  As a matter of national security we should not allow ourselves to be leveraged as heavily as we would be in a situation where such a huge chunk of our country would be bought off by foreigners.  Who do the Japanese look out for?  The Japanese.  Would the Japanese let their auto companies go under?  I don't think so.  There is no sense in letting 3 million people lose their jobs out of some high minded free market nonsense.  You are faced with collapse of significant portion of our economy.  The choice should be easy.
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